Final results are in and Kenny Albright, Don (Wilbur) Albright and myself all match perfectly on our 67 marker DNA test. That is the most marker test available to date!
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Y-DNA67 - 67 Marker Test: the highest resolution Y-DNA test in the world: tests the Y chromosome for genetic matches between males. Results are placed in our Y-DNA database and when 2 people show the same identical or near identical results, we will inform both parties if you have both signed the FTDNA Release Form. A perfect match of 67 markers means a very tight connection: a common ancestor in very recent times.
We know now we all descend from Johannes Albrecht b-1701 and Margaretha Moor, for Don and myself we must find which son of Johannes we descend from! We already know Kenny's lineage and that was why he was brought in for testing to prove our lineage to the Zurich, Switzerland Albrecht's. Still working on the translation of German written records discussing the relationship of the Zurich Albrect's to the Von Hapsburg's that I found in the SLC library.
Wednesday, November 26, 2008
Thursday, September 25, 2008
Kenny Albright 37 marker perfect match
Results are back and it is a perfect 37 on 37 marker match. In the words of Eric Albright coordinator for the Albright/Albrecht FamilytreeDNA testing.
"Hi Alan, Marilyn from FTDNA said you can officially call your matches a "lineage". Eric"
There is no need to test anymore, if people want to prove their lineage to mine, they can do the testing.
Still waiting for the translation of records written in German that may link are Albrecht's to the Von Hapsburgs.
Still working with a couple other researchers on which one of the sons of Johannes that is our Jacob's "The Gunsmith" father. I still feel that it is Felix, but should be able to make a good case for that!
"Hi Alan, Marilyn from FTDNA said you can officially call your matches a "lineage". Eric"
There is no need to test anymore, if people want to prove their lineage to mine, they can do the testing.
Still waiting for the translation of records written in German that may link are Albrecht's to the Von Hapsburgs.
Still working with a couple other researchers on which one of the sons of Johannes that is our Jacob's "The Gunsmith" father. I still feel that it is Felix, but should be able to make a good case for that!
Sunday, September 7, 2008
Albrecht research
The 37 marker results for Kenny Albright is being done, that is the 26 through 37 markers.
Familytree DNA explanation
A very small percentage of the tests we perform do not return conclusive results the first time we test. In these cases, the samples do not produce a reading that allows our lab to determine with 100% certainty the values for one or more markers or regions. When this happens, we re-test the sample. We repeat this procedure up to 3 times after the initial test fails to give a clear result.
Your result failed to produce a clear result in this run. Below is a status update for your test, as well as an estimated time of when the next rerun is expected to be completed:
PP5 - 9/26/2008 This test failed to yield results for your sample. Your sample is being rerun now. Results from this round of testing are expected by this date.
Anyway 25 markers prove a relationship and I would be totally surprised if anything changes with 37. With that I will be putting together the Albrecht line. My one snag will be finding which of the sons of Johannes Albrecht and Margaretha Moor will be Jacob "The Gunsmith" parents. I am working with a couple of Albright researchers on seeing if we can identify who are the sons of Johannes and what Jacobs belonged to those sons! It is easier said than done!
From Johannes it looks like this
Johannes Albrecht bap 13 Feb 1701 in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland and Margaretha Moor bap 23 Jan 1707 they were married 1726
Johannes b-1701 parents were Hans Albrecht bap 1 Jun 1656 in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland and Barbara Kunz bap 8 Oct 1665 they were married 1687
Hans b-1656 parents were Hans Jakob Albrecht bap 16 Sep 1629 in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland and Margaretha Volkart b-1637
Hans Jakob Albrecht b-1629 parents were Hans Albrecht born 1594 and Elsbeth Scherer married 1625
Hans Albrecht b-1594 parents were Heinrich Albrecht and Verena Hertzog married 1592
I have a German lady looking at the material that lists Albrechts as decended from Hapsburgs.
I was looking at early Zurich Switzerland records, it takes a lot of concentration and will have to go back when I can spend more time and concentrate. It is hard enough following old records let alone records in old German script!
Familytree DNA explanation
A very small percentage of the tests we perform do not return conclusive results the first time we test. In these cases, the samples do not produce a reading that allows our lab to determine with 100% certainty the values for one or more markers or regions. When this happens, we re-test the sample. We repeat this procedure up to 3 times after the initial test fails to give a clear result.
Your result failed to produce a clear result in this run. Below is a status update for your test, as well as an estimated time of when the next rerun is expected to be completed:
PP5 - 9/26/2008 This test failed to yield results for your sample. Your sample is being rerun now. Results from this round of testing are expected by this date.
Anyway 25 markers prove a relationship and I would be totally surprised if anything changes with 37. With that I will be putting together the Albrecht line. My one snag will be finding which of the sons of Johannes Albrecht and Margaretha Moor will be Jacob "The Gunsmith" parents. I am working with a couple of Albright researchers on seeing if we can identify who are the sons of Johannes and what Jacobs belonged to those sons! It is easier said than done!
From Johannes it looks like this
Johannes Albrecht bap 13 Feb 1701 in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland and Margaretha Moor bap 23 Jan 1707 they were married 1726
Johannes b-1701 parents were Hans Albrecht bap 1 Jun 1656 in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland and Barbara Kunz bap 8 Oct 1665 they were married 1687
Hans b-1656 parents were Hans Jakob Albrecht bap 16 Sep 1629 in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland and Margaretha Volkart b-1637
Hans Jakob Albrecht b-1629 parents were Hans Albrecht born 1594 and Elsbeth Scherer married 1625
Hans Albrecht b-1594 parents were Heinrich Albrecht and Verena Hertzog married 1592
I have a German lady looking at the material that lists Albrechts as decended from Hapsburgs.
I was looking at early Zurich Switzerland records, it takes a lot of concentration and will have to go back when I can spend more time and concentrate. It is hard enough following old records let alone records in old German script!
Wednesday, August 13, 2008
Kenny Albright
25 marker DNA test is still a perfect match, they are going slower, maybe just to torture me!
37 marker should be any day now!
37 marker should be any day now!
Saturday, August 9, 2008
Don (Wilbur) Albright perfect 67 marker match
There can be no doubt that Don (Wilbur) Albright is related. He matches perfectly on the 67 marker test. That is the most markers compared. It is rare that two people would match that closely and not know they were related. 95 % predictability that we are related within 6 generations.(We are not within 6, I figure 7 or 8) Don is probably 2 generations closer to our common ancestor than I am. I was expecting 66 out of 67 maybe, but the Albright gene must not mutate as easy(ha ha). Anyway Don (Wilbur) Albright and I both have ancestors from York County, Pennsylvania in the late 1700's. I am still waiting for the 37 marker test for Kenny Albright a descendent of Felix Albright that matched perfectly on the 12 marker test.
Now Don (Wilbur) Albright has had relatives that believe that they are descended from either Felix Albright or his brother Henry, I believe you must throw the brother Michael into the mix, not forgetting to mention another brother Jacob.
Well if we both match with Kenny then we know we are in the right family that are also in York County Pennsylvania. Johannes Albrecht being the immigrant coming in about 1743. I have recently obtained information that is about the Von Habsburgs, they were a Royal German family that ruled many areas of Europe. In it that have this Johannes Albrecht mentioned in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland. The document is all in German and am working to translate it once I am sure it is our line. Now I don't care if I have Royalty, but it can help in researching our line back as far as is possible. So you can see that the DNA testing can really lead to some great things.
However, if we don't match with Kenny it is back to the drawing board! A lot hinges on his results! And yes if he matches on 37 I will order a 67 marker test!
Should have Kenny's results in the next couple of weeks!
Little info from wikipedia
The dynasty is named after the seat of origin, the Habsburg castle in the Swiss Canton of Aargau. The origins of the name of the castle are uncertain. Most people assume the name to be derived from the High German Habichtsburg (Hawk Castle), but some historians and linguists are convinced that the name comes from the Middle High German word 'hab/ hap' meaning ford, as there is a river with a ford nearby. The first documented use of the name by the dynasty itself has been traced to the year 1108.[1][2][3] The Habsburg (aka Hapsburg) Castle was the family seat in the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries in the former duchy of Swabia, which incorporated present-day Aargau, at the time of the Holy Roman Empire. From southwestern Germany (mainly Alsace, Breisgau, Aargau and Thurgau) the family extended its influence and holdings to the southeastern reaches of the Holy Roman Empire, roughly today's Austria (1278–1382). Within only two or three generations, the Habsburgs had managed to secure an initially intermittent grasp on the imperial throne that would last for centuries (1273–1291, 1298–1308, 1438–1740, and 1745–1806).
Also from Questia: Encyclopedia
Now Don (Wilbur) Albright has had relatives that believe that they are descended from either Felix Albright or his brother Henry, I believe you must throw the brother Michael into the mix, not forgetting to mention another brother Jacob.
Well if we both match with Kenny then we know we are in the right family that are also in York County Pennsylvania. Johannes Albrecht being the immigrant coming in about 1743. I have recently obtained information that is about the Von Habsburgs, they were a Royal German family that ruled many areas of Europe. In it that have this Johannes Albrecht mentioned in Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland. The document is all in German and am working to translate it once I am sure it is our line. Now I don't care if I have Royalty, but it can help in researching our line back as far as is possible. So you can see that the DNA testing can really lead to some great things.
However, if we don't match with Kenny it is back to the drawing board! A lot hinges on his results! And yes if he matches on 37 I will order a 67 marker test!
Should have Kenny's results in the next couple of weeks!
Little info from wikipedia
The dynasty is named after the seat of origin, the Habsburg castle in the Swiss Canton of Aargau. The origins of the name of the castle are uncertain. Most people assume the name to be derived from the High German Habichtsburg (Hawk Castle), but some historians and linguists are convinced that the name comes from the Middle High German word 'hab/ hap' meaning ford, as there is a river with a ford nearby. The first documented use of the name by the dynasty itself has been traced to the year 1108.[1][2][3] The Habsburg (aka Hapsburg) Castle was the family seat in the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries in the former duchy of Swabia, which incorporated present-day Aargau, at the time of the Holy Roman Empire. From southwestern Germany (mainly Alsace, Breisgau, Aargau and Thurgau) the family extended its influence and holdings to the southeastern reaches of the Holy Roman Empire, roughly today's Austria (1278–1382). Within only two or three generations, the Habsburgs had managed to secure an initially intermittent grasp on the imperial throne that would last for centuries (1273–1291, 1298–1308, 1438–1740, and 1745–1806).
Also from Questia: Encyclopedia
HAPSBURG
| or Habsburgboth: hăpsˈbûrg, Ger. häpsˈboork, ruling house of Austria (1282–1918). Rise to Power The family, which can be traced to the 10th cent., originally held lands in Alsace and in NW Switzerland. Otto (d. 1111) took the name Hapsburg from a castle near Aargau, Switzerland, when he was designated count. Vast estates in Upper Alsace, Baden, and Switzerland were inherited (1173) by his grandson Count Albert III (d. 1199) and passed to Rudolf II (d. 1232) and Albert IV (d. c.1240). The extinction of the houses of Lenzburg, Zähringen, and Kyburg facilitated family acquisitions. The election (1273) of Count Rudolf IV as Rudolf I, king of the Germans, provoked war with King Ottocar II of Bohemia. Ottocar's defeat and death at the Marchfeld (1278) confirmed Hapsburg possession of Austria, Carniola, and Styria; these lands and the Austrian ducal title were declared hereditary by Rudolf in 1282. In 1335 Carinthia too was claimed. Possession of these dominions marked the rise of the Hapsburgs to European significance. Held in common by the sons of Albert I and of Albert II, the many lands were divided, after the death (1365) of Duke Rudolf IV, between the Albertine and Leopoldine lines (named for his brothers). |
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
Kenny Albright descendent of Christian Albright
Just received the DNA results for Kenny Albright, we have a 12 on 12 perfect match. I am cautiously holding back my excitement. He is the same Haplogroup and I believe he will turn out like Wilbur (Don) Albright and continue to match as we do more marker tests. This will conclusively prove my relationship to the Albrechts of Neerach, Zurich, Switzerland. Although I may never find what son of Johannes Albrecht b-1701 and Margaretha Moor b-1706 I am from, I may be able to make some educated guesses. Once again I will hold back my excitement until these tests come back!
Sunday, June 1, 2008
Don (Wilbur) Albright DNA results
Results are in on Don (Wilbur) Albright 37 marker test and it is a perfect match 37 on 37.
This is what familytreeDNA says on a 37 marker test
This is what familytreeDNA says on a 37 marker test
37/37 Your perfect match means you share a common male ancestor with a person who shares your surname (or variant). Your relatedness is extremely close with the common ancestor predicted, 50% of the time, in 5 generations or less and with a 90% probability within 16 generations. Very few people achieve this close level of a match. All confidence levels are well within the time frame that surnames were adopted in Western Europe.
My guess would be that Don (Wilbur) Albright's ancestor Jacob Albright born abt 1770 is a first cousin to my ancestor Jacob Albright the gunsmith born abt 1770 also. That would put are common ancestor at about the 8th generation. My question is why do a 67 marker test for Don (Wilbur) Albright? Don't I have enough evidence with the common place of origin and now the perfect 37 marker match. I am having one other individual do the test that was also related to the same York County bunch from Switzerland.
My guess would be that Don (Wilbur) Albright's ancestor Jacob Albright born abt 1770 is a first cousin to my ancestor Jacob Albright the gunsmith born abt 1770 also. That would put are common ancestor at about the 8th generation. My question is why do a 67 marker test for Don (Wilbur) Albright? Don't I have enough evidence with the common place of origin and now the perfect 37 marker match. I am having one other individual do the test that was also related to the same York County bunch from Switzerland.
My thinking is to see how the testing goes for Kenny Albright, descendent of Felix Albright b-1734 in Zurich, Switzerland and died in York Co. Pa in 1780.
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